The Speed of Gravity - Quotes from an Important Paper and Some Reflections by Roland Trujillo

The following quotes are from the excellent paper on the speed of gravity. I believe every physicist and cosmologist should read it several times with an open mind. I, for one, am a big fan of Albert Einstein and his approach to gravity, time and space.

I appreciate the SR and GR, and I do not dispute them. But gravity is the timeless mother field, the source of mass, energy, time and space. It is not material or electromagnetic itself, though it is the creator and sustainer of spin and electromagnetic phenomena.


We can measure the effects of time dilation, compression, and see that the vector of light is bent and measurement of clock speed slowed in the presence of gravity. Yet gravity itself, though we feel it literally in the seat of our pants, and though it creates measurable and predictable effects on material objects--yet gravity itself is the timeless creator of time, the spaceless creator of space and the immaterial creator of matter and energy.

I also see that there are two separate phenomena involved when we are considering gravity. There is the original source of gravity, which I believe is the pre time force field or pre time gravity wind which creates physical matter, energy and space through steady state acceleration, and then sustains its creations through enveloping them--which is what we feel and observe in regular (not creational) gravity.

However, there may be a secondary (or tertiary, if we consider steady state creation gravity as first order gravity) gravity effect, like transverse waves from a buoy floating in the water as it bobs up and down. And these, being within the created universe (unlike the mother gravity field which is very real but metaphysical). If such emanations exist, then they very well may be waves undoubtedly obeying the speed limit of the speed of light.
These speed of light waves may be (and this is speculation) light itself, part of which is lines of magnetic force.

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In the rubber sheet analogy, if the small target body is at rest on the side of a dent caused by a source mass, it will remain at rest forever until some force acts. The rubber sheet analogy works in our imaginations only because we instinctively imagine gravity under the rubber sheet, with its pull providing a meaning to the concept of “downhill”. But without pre-existing gravity, the small body has no cause to accelerate, either on the rubber sheet or in the geometrical interpretation of GR. The causality principle is violated.


The evidence from all six experiments that bear on the question of the speed of gravity is unambiguous in excluding answers as slow as lightspeed. A similar remark applies to the propagation speed of electrodynamic forces. The strongest of these experiments sets a lower limit to the speed of gravity of 2x1010 c.

Because of the belief that GR is based on SR, which disallows the possibility of faster-than-light propagation in forward time, the most common interpretation of GR is that the speed of gravity is the speed of light. This interpretation is also based on a misunderstanding of the implications of aberration and confusion between the meanings of gravitational force variations and gravitational waves. However, the consequences of a propagation speed of gravitational force variations as slow as lightspeed would be catastrophic for many astrophysical bodies, and are strongly disallowed by physical principles and by all existing experimental evidence.

The mere existence of a viable alternative interpretation of the GR equations based on Lorentzian relativity, taken together with the continued experimental viability of LR, mean that the proof of the impossibility of propagation and communication in forward time at arbitrarily high speeds no longer has supportable experimental underpinnings.



source of above quotes
The Speed of Gravity - Repeal of the Speed Limit

partial preprint of paper by Tom Van Flandern and J.P. Vigier, published in Foundations of Physics 32:1031-1068 (2002)

http://www.metaresearch.org/cosmology/gravity/speed_limit.asp